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bricheesegirl — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:15:38 GMT

I had to deal with horses very similar to yours. 3 horses came to our barn, spice, spitfire, and robyn. They hadn't been sepirated for 13 years! It is like wening a baby from its mother. You have to sepirate them little by little. Have one in a stall and walk the other around outside. ~Bri~

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derbygirl — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:54:42 GMT

awww...sorry for you and the horse :( it is probably best to euth her....it is a hard decision to make though.:/

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horsemadness — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:38:20 GMT

they have been in seperate pastures for about 6months now the lame one is sometimes woth the cows and we dont know what to do and im sick of people saying i dont care about her i do alot she was my first horse but my gparennts are tired of spending money on her to just occupy a oasture they are wasting money on her we have been to at least 4 vts and the last one said its a disease that will only get worse and theres no cure and she is getting it on her other leg as well. and they said you will have to euthanize her or just let her die because she cant even walk and we dont know what to do

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derbygirl — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:48:06 GMT

try to keep them in separate pastures for a few hours, etc to get them used to it. don't let them see each other. it will be like separating a mom and foal though. heartbreaking time :(

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JustJumpIt96 — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 21:39:46 GMT

Oh goodness,

First of all darling, "dead lame" doesn't mean dead. It means a horse can't be worked without limping very badly. And why would you ever put a lame horse in an auction? Even many healthy horses in auctions are sent to slaughter. It seems like you don't really care about her at all. Have you had your vet look at her yet? Listen to him/her and do what is best for your horse, which isn't sending her to slaughter. You may say "No, I'm not sending her to slaughter, I'm sending her to an auction" but honey where do you think she's going to end up? Especially in this economy, no one's going to buy a lame horse and give it a forever home. What are you thinking! If you really can't keep her try giving her away to friends or family that CAN take care of her. And if she's really that bad, you may want to consider having your vet put her down. That would be much better than sending her all of the way to Mexico to be killed. And when they're killed, they aren't killed the way vet euthanize them. Definitly not. I'm not sure who led you to believe that it's alright to send a lame horse to an auction but is really isn't. Please try to do something else other than sending her to an auction.....show your horse some love and respect....she deserves it.

P.S.-I know this is very late but there is still that hope that she hasn't been sent to an auction and you still have her. Maybe by some chance you will read this and use my advice as well as others whom have replied to you in the future.

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saddleclubgirl123 — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:36:28 GMT

horsemadness (7/8/2009)

i am a 13 yr old girl and my quatrer horse breeze is to. she is bffs with my palamino sparkles. sparkles went lame after the 2 weeks we had her and we cant ride her without her limping real bad with pain. but when i ride breeze away of her sight they freak out and buck rear bolt and she has had some injuryies withy the fence. we are going to sell sparkles in an auction soon and we r worried about what breeze will do when she has left. when we ut sparkles in a different field breeze has a metal stall sorta thing where we close it so they wont eat eachothers food she made it looked deformed and broke it im afarid of riding her when we sell sparkles wat should i do HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CALL THE VET!! AND GET OINTMENT :)

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peaches30120 — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:16:27 GMT

watching a horse being euthanized is one of the worst experiences I have ever gone through. I have seen it twice and neither were different althought I would much rather that than the mexican slaughter house anyday

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Misfit Style — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:53:00 GMT

^I agree entirely.

Honestly, I've heard that a bullet to the brain is more humane than euthing. Euthing is usually done because it's easier on the people, not the horse.

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Mackenburg — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:17:49 GMT

Misfit Style (8/20/2009)

turn/burnavq (7/20/2009)

Not everyone who sells their old horses at auction are cold hearted idiots. In my area euthanasia is about $300-500.

Cold hearted idiot? No.

Irresponsible? Yes.

If you're going to have a horse, you should be able to have the money to take care of it. Yes, euthanasia can be expensive. But guess what? That's what you get when you have a horse.

If she's worried about expenses, an experienced hand and a 12-gauge shotgun are humane and effective.

I'm not kidding, by the way if anyone thinks I am.

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Misfit Style — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:36:09 GMT

[quote]turn/burnavq (7/20/2009)

Not everyone who sells their old horses at auction are cold hearted idiots. In my area euthanasia is about $300-500.
[/quote]

Cold hearted idiot? No.

Irresponsible? Yes.

If you're going to have a horse, you should be able to have the money to take care of it. Yes, euthanasia can be expensive. But guess what? That's what you get when you have a horse.

In owning a horse, you are responsible for their life, and in turn, their death. You can't afford to give your horse a humane death, you shouldn't own that horse.

It wouldn't be as big of a deal if slaughter was legal in the US. Humanely done, there is nothing wrong with slaughter. But, Mexico isn't humane. Knowingly and willingly sending your horse to a Mexican slaughterhouse? That is not fair to the horse, and I will judge you for that.

Plus, correct me if I'm wrong, but captive bolts usually are cheaper than euthing and just as (if not more so) humane. It's also something you can DIY. Disposal is another matter, but lots of rendering plants etc... will take it body off your hands.

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Misfit Style — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:27:09 GMT

Honestly, I suggest euth-ing her.

Horse doesn't have a use, so won't be able to be resold. Rescues are overrun, give-aways are unreliable...

You can't keep her, and it's not a good idea to simply pawn her off to someone else.

Euthing seems to be the only viable option.

Plus, if you think we're being jerks NOW, you obviously haven't been on these boards that long.

Yes, of course, we're horrible human beings. How dare we care about your horse's welfare?

Good grief.

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horsemadness — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:07:22 GMT

well the main problamo is that she was my first horse and i want her to go to a sanctuary but i have no idea where one is neart guthrie oklahoma or okc for horses and i want to be able to come see her alot so yea ive had her for a year now i dont want to give her up just yet

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CrazyHorseGirl1773 — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:22:54 GMT

The people who are telling you not to sell her at an auction are not 'being jerks'. They are just concerned with the wellfare of the horse, and it angers me to think that you would even consider auction, you can't know who the horse goes to or what happens after they're sold. I'm not being rude here, I'm just saying.

If she's in pain and she's suffering have her euthanized, it's really the best thing for her.

About the other horse, I have the same problem with my gelding that I'm trying to fix, I think that what past posters have said is good advice and should help.

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turn/burnavq — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:34:23 GMT

First I would like to ask why isn't anyone addressing her original question?

Not everyone who sells their old horses at auction are cold hearted idiots. In my area euthanasia is about $300-500. I do not know of any horse sancuaries in my area. Would it be better if the horse was dropped off at a stranger's house? That happens alot in my area. I am sure the writer is tore up enough without having some jump down her throat. It would be different if she asked for this but the question had nothing to do with auctions.

I wish there wasn't a need for slaughter but sadly there is.

I agree that lounging her away from her buddy might help. Can you haul her somewhere by herself and then work? If I just ride from my house Cajun won't listen to me. If I take him to town(I use the arena at the fairgrounds) he works great, obviously not the first few times. He minds better by himself in town. Maybe this won't work for you, but it does for me.

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sunny06 — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:38:35 GMT

this is my first time here and i have alot of expierecne with horses but i didnt know that. you dont have to be a jerk about it. almost everybody who replyed except for 2 people were jerks. and you know what my spelling has nothing to do with this the "p" is messed up on my computer

^^ Lovely way to show off your maturity.

But here's what I have to say to you:

1. If you want your horse to have a good 90% chance of going to the slaughterhouse, then sell him at an auction.

2. If you don't want your horse to be slaughtered or in pain, then give him a good ending with euthanization.

3. If you want your horse to stay living, then spend lots of $$ on making him all drugged up, but in the long run he will never be happy and there is no point keeping a lame unuseable horse that serves no purpose except for a pasture ornament and that costs $$. Grass, water, drugs, feed, hay, vet bills if he gets sick, shoes/correction shoes, and the list goes on.

4. So what do you propose to do? Give her a good ending and be pain-free, or go to slaughterhouse and die a horrible death? Graphic, I know, but it is the sad truth.

None of this has anything to do with 'being a jerk'. It has to do with just plain trying to get this to you in a quick and orderly fashion. Not many people are going to knowingly take in a horse with bad injuries/issues, unless they are rescue people. I don't know if it is even possible to give a non-abused horse to rescuers, but I'm sure you can work something out.

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graciegirl2001 — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:57:09 GMT

I think someone else suggested this as well: maybe a horse rescue could take your lame horse? Then you wouldn't have to deal with the idea of her dead or going to a slaughter house. I think that it'd make you feel better if she just went to a rescue. So look in your area and see if you kind find a good rescue. Before you give her to a rescue, make sure you go to their house and look it over, that way you know that they're not a fake and your horse is going to a good home.

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~Sorreloveroowner~ — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:57:21 GMT

hey, some people are just blunt and to the point on here. Don't take it personally, they just will tell you straight and to the point about what's what.

I do have to agree. If you want your mare to go to a good place, then the best you can do is euthanize her or something like it. My mare was 23 y.o. when we put her down. I thought about selling her too, but I don't like the idea of someone hauling my loved mare to some slaughter plant. She had strangles and a heart murmur, so I did some research and found that euth. here was much more than just using a 30-06 and getting her hauled away. I would have kept her and buried her on my property, but she was sick so I didn't want that to stay here.

If you really feel that bringing her to an auction is the best way you could handle it, then go ahead and do it. This is going to be a hard decision to make, but do what you think is right.

Hope this helped.

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horsemadness — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:39:59 GMT

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candyapple714 — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:42:27 GMT

Don't take the horse to the auction. Look into a rescue or sanctuary so the horse can live the rest of her years in peace. Think about it before having the horse killed. Just stop and think about it.

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sillybunny11486 — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:18:12 GMT

why dont you look into taking her to a horse rescue? as everyone said most people looking for a riding horse at auction wont buy a lame one. what have the vets said about her? if shes "unfixable" the best thing to do is put her to sleep. As for your other horse, it could be dangerous if she is alone and never has been. Try to seperate them for increasing amounts of time each day. You may want to get some ace pills from the vet, to calm her down when you take the other horse to a new home.

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Tobiano — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:55:03 GMT

^ exactly what I'm thinking--and use spell check, please.

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Purcocious — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:09:02 GMT

Do you have a vet? If so call them and have your horse checked out. Obviously, your other mare probably has never been checked either, so have her checked out while the vet is there. If you don't have a vet, call one and have them come out.

It is horrifying that you and your family are so willing to send a horse that you are responsible for off to auction to meet a more likely than not gruesome death. At least have her euthanized, as others have said, to let her go peacefully. I mean, no, you won't get the $50 out of it from the auction, but at least you won't have a suffering animal on your concience.

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Whiskey87 — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:45:06 GMT

Oh dear God....

Darling, "dead lame" doesn't mean dead. Think about it for a second and you will realize that there is a word after "dead". "Dead lame" means that the horse can't be worked at all without limping badly.

And as others have said, why in God's name are you selling a lame horse at auction? She is going to go to the slaughter houses. There is no maybe in this. Good, sound (<- that word means "not lame", I'm not talking about the "Sound of Music" sound) horses are going to slaughter. What do you think is going to happen to a lame horse?

My guess is that either your family has their heads under a rock (or stuck in a similarly dark, secluded place) and don't realized that the economy is crappy, or you genuinely don't care about what happens to the horse.

Either way you need a serious reality check. Slaughter in Mexico is quite possibly the worst way for an animal to die (maybe a little better or tied with slowly burning to death). After riding on trailers with 24-48+ hours (during which time they horses have no food or water and generally kick and bite the snot out of one another), they are dumped at the slaughter houses. There, they are killed through a number of equally twisted methods, including having their throat slit and bleeding to death.

Also, unlike the US slaughter houses, Mexican slaughter houses are not regulated. That means that horses can continue past the "kill" station to where they are gutted and have their hide ripped off, even if they aren't completely dead yet.

Now that that is out of they way, I HOPE that you are smart enough to insist that your parents don't sell your horse to that fate. Keeping in mind that I doubt a lame horse will sell for very much (even if bought by the pound for meat), the only sensible and humane thing to do is euthanize her. It costs less than $100 in my area to euthanize a horse and dispose of the body.

You could also keep her as a pasture pet, but I'm assuming your parent's don't want to keep around a hungry mouth that can't work. Understandable considering this crappy economy. You may say "but I don't want my horsie to die!! I'm just going to sell her to a nice family". Well, dear, no you won't. You won't be selling her to a nice family. You will be selling her to a horrible death. You can't always tell the kill buyers just by looking at them, and I'm sure if you ask they are more than willing to tell a sweet little girl such as your self that MyLittlePony is going to their huge farm where she will have all the lollipops and gum drops in the world to eat.

If you can afford to own horses, than you can afford to give them a humane death. $100 is not that much money. Do the right thing.

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Hibiscus — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:35:52 GMT

She's going straight to the kill pen. She's got a long ride to Mexico to end up on somebody's dinner plate. Do here a favor, don't send her to the auction. Put a bullet in her head instead. Have the vet euthanize her. Don't send her to auction. Nobody will give a lame horse a "forever home" in this market.

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sunny06 — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:05:07 GMT

~The Killers~

Seriously, though. It is the sad truth.

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All-Round-Equestrian — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:32:39 GMT

How old is who? And I agree, why are you selling a lame horse in an auction?! Do you have any idea where she could be going?

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horsemadness — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:58:57 GMT

hey how old r u im 13

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horsemadness — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:57:55 GMT

sparkles is not dead she is just lame some young college guy sold her to us and the first 2 weeks we had he she went lame we cant ride her without her limping and being in pain we have been to at least 3vets over the state sorta and they all say differernet things and different medications we dont want to just put her in the pasture jus to be there for fun right Me and my grandparents dont know wat to do!!!!

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allieooperloveshankers — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:14:54 GMT

hey! i ride alot of buddy sour horses for my trainer and it sucks so i know how you feel. my horse is even a little buddy sour. its bad when they cant see eachother but they can smell then or they know they are still around, thats when they start acting like idiots. especially my horse because he bonds really quickly with others and so when we leave them he throws fits and bucks and takes off. so usually the first 20 minutes or so before the show we spend lunging doing circles and lots of backing before he gets it.

usually when they are alone they don't take off or have thoughs issues. its really when you first take them away from eachother. horses are social animals so when you take them away from their "herd" then they freak out and just want to be back with them.

its going to take some adjusting but i think your horse will be fine because he wont be able to smell her and he knows shes gone so he wont be looking for her.

if you find something else that works let me know because my horse does the same thing lol

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Gracie53 — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:12:34 GMT

first off, WHY are you selling a dead lame horse to an auction?

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horsemadness — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:55:32 GMT