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I have a TWH and he is used mainly trotting. I can tell he is "unhappy" at the trot. At a regular gait (running walk) he is fine. So i have ruled out that his uncomfortable behavior is from a "injury". I am wondering if I should continue trotting him, despite his "unhappiness". And does it "hurt" him to trot or is he just frustrated for some reason?
Also, what is your opinion on training a TWH out of his natural gait and teaching him to trot?
And for those of you who say "TWH can't trot" well guess what, some can. thanks everyone!
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If he's uncomfortable, I wouldn't make him do it. And a lot of gaited horse people will jump on you for letting a twh trot, but Cheyenne, my twh mare does it naturally sometimes under saddle. So I would just go with not doing it if he appears unhappy/ in pain.
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| No, you should not continue to let your horse trot. Horses are creatures of habit; give 'em and inch, they will take a mile. You've ruled out saddle issues, mouth issues, muscle pain, yes? Sunny wouldn't gait for the longest time until we figured out it was his saddle making him sore. I would not let him continue this behavior. If you were to ever sell him ever it would be challenging because most people who are buying a gaited horse are wanting what? A gait. Are you absolutely POSITIVE there is no issue? Gaited horses don't usually trot for no reason other some kind of discomfort, stiffness, etc. He could also be tried or lazy. Our other one will do that occasionally. All in all, if your horse is unhappy doing it don't allow him. How do you know he is 'unhappy'?
    
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| sunny06, I have been around horses my whole life, and actually, i was forced into buying this horse. But anywho, i can tell he is unhappy or in discomfort trotting because of his body language. My first sign is his face. He will make this weird face with his nose and bob his head up and down. I have proved that that face shows him being frustrated, unhappy, or uncomfterable. The second sign is he is very "choppy" at the trot. Now, this is a horse that tries to please you, but is hard to work with (he has ADDHD). When he gaits, all his discomfert signs go away. His nose is back to normal, he isn't "choppy" or seeming hurt. My problem is that i am not allowed to sell this horse, but i know darn well, he does not suit me, and i do not suit him. I want to let him gait, but i am not allowed. If i can get other peoples opinions on whether or not trotting is a physical problem, and if he can come up lame from it, then i might be allowed to sell him. thanks.
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| My first sign is his face. He will make this weird face with his nose and bob his head up and down. What does he do with his head? Bobbing up and down is good usually for gaiting.. Please explain a little better. The second sign is he is very "choppy" at the trot. Now, this is a horse that tries to please you, but is hard to work with. When he gaits, all his discomfert signs go away. His nose is back to normal, he isn't "choppy" or seeming hurt. He is choppy because he isn't used to trotting. Our horse Gunsmoke does it very horribly. I think his problem is conformation. He is not built like a normal TWH. (he has ADDHD). Uh.. You mean that in a sarcastic way I'm guessing.. I want to let him gait, but i am not allowed. Why did you get a gaiting horse if you don't want (or not allowed) to gait? What's wrong with letting him do what he was bred to do? If i can get other peoples opinions on whether or not trotting is a physical problem, and if he can come up lame from it, then i might be allowed to sell him. It is never acceptable to sell a lame horse. Never. That is just.. Dishonest. But it could be something simple like conformation or poorly fitting saddle: -What saddle are you using? Is he uncomfortable? -If you didn't know what breed he was, what would you say he was/looked like? -When he breaks into a trot what causes that? Are you dropping contact with his mouth? Are leaning forward? Etc.. Take your index and thumb nails and glide each finger down the sides of his spine. Does he flinch?
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| First off, i would never sell a lame horse. You must have read what i was saying wrong. I ""own"" this horse, but i am being controlled by other people. They FORCED me into buying him (i did not want him at all). What i ment about the lameness is that if I am provided with FACTS that it is possible he could become lame, then i will be allowed to sel him. the weird face... His whole lip goes to one side while on the other side of his face, his teeth show. His head doesn't bob, only at a gait. Can you just answer my question and let me know if it is possible he could become lame from trotting?
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| -What saddle are you using? Is he uncomfortable? No, he is not uncomfortable with his saddle. I have fit horses for saddles for many years. -If you didn't know what breed he was, what would you say he was/looked like? he looks somewhat like a friesian... -When he breaks into a trot what causes that? Are you dropping contact with his mouth? Are leaning forward? Etc.. He doesn't brake into a trot, he brakes into a running walk. Take your index and thumb nails and glide each finger down the sides of his spine. Does he flinch?
No.
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So he trots everywhere but gaits when you 'let' him? What are you doing to 'let' him? What are you doing to 'not' let him?
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| The "goal i have been faced with" is to make him trot. His problem is he will brake into a gait. Which in my vision, is awesome for a TWH. I feel bad about ruining him, and would really like some facts so that i can save him! Can he come up lame from trotting??!?!
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The "goal i have been faced with" is to make him trot. His problem is he will brake into a gait. Which in my vision, is awesome for a TWH. I feel bad about ruining him, and would really like some facts so that i can save him!Can he come up lame from trotting??!?! I'm sorry I didn't see your previous post. I apologize. Can he become lame with trotting? No. But he may create a bad habit and quit gaiting altogether. How would you be able to 'save' him? I'm not understanding your whole.. Story. the weird face... His whole lip goes to one side while on the other side of his face, his teeth show. His head doesn't bob, only at a gait. And this isn't a problem. It might be a bit problem but not a gaited problem.
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