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It has to do with her typing style and attitude.
horseless, with your great connections, can you show me where George Morris would encourage a gallop of any sort to a 2' fence?
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| Go read his book and trot yourself to one of his clinics. I believe he has one this month in Ga or fl. I know he has a few during the WEF. Anyway. Let us step back a bit. I said galop to fence. You asked fairly enough why galop or dont galop. either on fair enough. Then you again fair enough went into the mechanics or the galop vs canter 3 vs 4 beat. Then at some point you posted a vid of someone riding a hunter in a ring who was doing what we used to call 'galop' to the fence. Ie moving foward, rocking on back legs etc. Also you have to understand when I began doing hunters we did not go thorugh the long low and umph over fences we did the hold hold hold until last 3-5 strides then puch horse foaward to base of fence. Remember we did not have ground line or 'related' planned out and posted distances. We had on our course diagrams 8 or so lines on a peice of paper with the in/out gate marked. Maybe if we were lucky there was a directional arrow going to the first jump. But other than that we were on our own. Which is why a 15.2 squat qh could with out as much as blink of an eye do jr's and the meadals ecause our galop and apparently the galop oftoday are tow compleatly diffrent thengs. But then agian we did not to the lay on the neck, lean over the side, stick buttocks in air while reaching for irons release either. SO your galop while tech. correct in that is 4 beats and the galop I was talking about are 2 diffrent things. Mine was more inline with what was posted and yes you want that pace even at the 2' level. Though in fairness due o my age and the yrs I have been in the ring I havent figured out the pourpose of the 2' division at shows other than schooling level...Actually anything under 3' is still a titch beyond my grasp at any rated show...
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Okay, now that you explained yourself better, I agree with you.
I said 'forward canter' and that is what I meant. Rocked back, engaged with impulsion.
I don't understand the lower divisions in jumpers, but hunters, I get it. A lot of the people are super-beginners.
Be careful when you say gallop. People generally have something in mind when one mentions that word.
Sorry for arguing with you. =)
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If you are that old, horseless, why do you spend so much time on here? No job, no life? I'm only on here because I'm stuck on bed rest from an injury. There are some real A show forums out there, you know? If you're so good why do you come on here where most people are inexperienced and naive? I have a feeling that horseless is really a 15 year old trying to look cool. JMHO Oh and also, GM would never tell you to gallop to a 2' fence. He'd tell you to walk it. It's clear you've never ridden with him.
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wizard of oz's (11/6/2009) If you are that old, horseless, why do you spend so much time on here? No job, no life? I'm only on here because I'm stuck on bed rest from an injury. There are some real A show forums out there, you know? If you're so good why do you come on here where most people are inexperienced and naive? I have a feeling that horseless is really a 15 year old trying to look cool. JMHO Oh and also, GM would never tell you to gallop to a 2' fence. He'd tell you to walk it. It's clear you've never ridden with him. You're new, so it's fair to say you don't realize just how incorrect your assumption is. But I do believe you are correct about GM and walking fences. Old trainer used to ride under him and he would often make us walk 3+ fences at home before shows.
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| Actually yes I have in a few clinics and was asked as a jr rider to go train with him.. course theasking was in th e80's when we rode diffrently more foward if you will to everything we approached including 2' jumps. And at his clinic this past sept he did indeed ask the lower level riders to galop ( not the flat out galop as we discussed before) to the jumps. As for my employment status I dont see where that is your business. But if you must know I work when i choose to for whom i choose to but for the most part I do not need to work. And i have a minor child still at home who requires an aducation which I have not left in the almost always capable hand of the public school teachers... I wish i was 15.. geesh to be 15 again..my knees would still be bad but for only 2 yrs.. My rotator cuff would not have been torn yet, I would just be starting my riding life, I would be moving back to ohio from a place I hated, And I'd know better than to get a degree in horses... Oh yeah and 99% of the surgeries I have had I would not have had yet... And I would have a 3.1475 GPA in high school again... And one last thing I would not have wench mare as a first horse I would hold out for made horse... Why do I hang out here where the people do not have the yrs I have.. Gee to spread knowlege to those who ask. It is fine to walk your 3' jumps for schooling before a show but it is also ok to galop to those lower jumps as well. But then again I am talking doing outside courses something that the younger generation in most places have not seen.. One rides outside courses difrently than a ring course perhaps one day you should attempt one..
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