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Posted 10/10/2009 1:06:28 PM
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I have a half quarter half draft mare, who is stubborn and will walk and pull on her lead away from me to where I have to let go or she will pull my arm out.  She then got her way, what can I do to get her to stop. 

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Posted 10/10/2009 4:06:44 PM


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What I usually do is snap their lead rope really hard everytime they do that, also you can use a chain when you snap it, it gets them annoyed and usually they stop for me.

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You can also try every time the behavior happens , lunge them and make them go in circles and work them. Also practice leading in a smaller round pen.


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Posted 10/10/2009 4:45:01 PM
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just becareful about pulling with a chain, you can get them to be face shy. sounds like you need to work on ground manners. i make sure all my horses are trained to stop walking when i stop, so pulling isnt a problem. I walk them around the length of the ring a few times. The I ask once or twice each side for a halt. when the horse gives me a halt i pat them and give them praise. if the horse dosent listen I will stop them (may take a few steps, and you may need to pull the chain a little) when they stop I back them up a few steps. Remember to always praise for halting. even if it took 5 or more steps to get it. also, maybe bring a crop with you. if your mare dosent listen to the chain i would tap her chest. just to annoy her, not to hurt her. i will do alot of stops untill the horse just stops walking when I do. i mean like almost shoulder to shoulder. ive done this with a pushy horse, it took a while but after a few sessions he learned. you also have to remember horses learn thru repetition, so keep repeating this exercise, maybe daily if necessary, till the horse does it everytime.

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Posted 10/10/2009 6:32:06 PM


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Your horse has learned some very dangerous behaviors. Fortunately, you can correct them, but it will take LOTS of time, patience, and repitition, especially since your horse learned to get away with it (kudos to you for recognizing it, by the way).
You got some pretty good suggestions above, I just want to add a few things to it. For the very first few days of re-training your horse, I would take him into a fenced arena, walk up to the fence, put a little pressure on the chain, and say "Whoa". Make sure that the fence is strong enough, horses with this problem might actually try to push through the fence. Work on that for a few days, until your horse stops readily at the fence (by the way, make sure to praise your horse profusely when he stops and stands quietly). Then, I would go on to what is suggested above, walk your horse around the arena, and ask for a halt. Again, praise profusely for a good or even decent halt. If your horse starts to get back into his old habits, go back to the fence halt until he masters that again.
This is a very difficult problem, but it can be cured. Good luck!

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Posted 10/11/2009 3:33:02 AM
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Without going into the whole "over nose" vs "under chin" methods of using a chain shank, I've found with drafties that they really, REALLY have a problem with the chains going over their noses.  Don't know why, but after 150 drafts I found under the chin works better for them.  I can take a horse who fights the over the nose method and put it under the chin and get better results.  Not sure why.....maybe because the over method is more forceful (as in I'm making you hurt and you can't get away from it vs you pull back, YOU'RE making you hurt and all you have to do is stop and it goes away) or maybe because they have more bone and can ignore it or over-power it.

Try both ways, see what works.  And Misfits' suggestions as well.

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Posted 10/11/2009 11:40:21 AM
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Sounds like you need to go back to very basic ground work training with this horse.
Do you have a round pen or a small area you can work her in where she can't walk away if she pulls away from you?
You do not say how old you are. How old your horse is. What your experience is. Etc. If you are not able or capable to do some training with this horse yourself, I would recommend hiring a trainer who can work with both you and this horse on basic ground work and manners.
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