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OK guys, let me clarify.
I meant teaching them on the ground. I should have been more clear, sorry, I was having a brain dead day. Maybe it's just where I live, but probably 90% of the people I know teach those movements under saddle first.
I should have been more clear, that I don't use any Parelli under-saddle training, just groundwork. I had some really, REALLY bad experiences with Parelli-like under-saddle training, so I use strictly classical Dressage and John Lyons (which sometimes, are the same ) for training under saddle.
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^ Again, teaching those things on the ground is about as Parelli as fried chicken is parelli.
Those, my dear, are pure dressage and mainstream horsemanship.
That's how you teach those undersaddle moves, you teach them on the ground first (except perhaps leg-yielding... I find it's easier to teach undersaddle first and on the ground later).
Like I've said before, you live in a WEIRD part of the world. However, just because it happens in your area doesn't mean that 'real horsemanship' is like that.
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I don't mean to be rude, but I think you kind of missed the point of this topic.
No, Parelli didn't invent any of those manuevers. But he explains them in his books, DVD's, and clinics, the way that he teaches them. It's the same move, yes, but a different way to explain it. Does that make any sense?
Anyways, the point of topic was to discuss Parelli training. And the few manuevers that I explained were not created by Parelli, but explained by him. And his teaching is how I train my horse in those manuevers.
Does that help explain what I mean? Again, not trying to attack or appear rude, just trying to explain what I mean.
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^I understand the point of this topic.
However, I dislike misinformation.
It's kind of like you can like Beethoven, you can say whatever you want about him, you just can't say that he invented the piano.
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| I was thinking about parelli, but it costs alot of $$$. I know trainers do too but at least there is q/a with a trainer, and they can tell you exactly what is going on with you. I look at everything like this: how many riding lessons is this gunna cost me... With the whole parelli kit and kaboodle i could be taking lessons for like 4-5 months for what it costs. Another reason I chose not to, I dont learn well through dvds and videos. Its a unique and interesting system but not everyone can do it, and not everyone will get results.
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| Its not the same thing to hear and try it out yourself than to have some one with a real expert advice help you out. Parelli has some good points now and then, i do not agree with most of his trainning methods, but i dont hate him either. Look at the riding/horse trainning world as this. The knowledge is endless, we could spend a life time learning about horses and still, we wouldnt even cover the tip of the ice berg. Now Just worshiping a trainner, and follow him blindly (like alot of people i've met) is wrong, i see trainners as some guides, each and everyone with a little something to share, and you as a student must take wathever of his teachings are nesesary for your learning, or the lessons you find the most adequate to you. The horse industry will always have mixed opinions about certain things, one trainner will say that side reins are the most wonderfull gadget for horse trainning, while another trainner will tell you that side reins ruind horses (its an example) . But in the end, i find it wrong to just close up the mind of one's learnings and not be open minded about other ways of learning, such as i find it wrong to bash other ways of riding, or riding methods (i only make an exeption when it comes to mexican dancing horses). And well for learning to ride based on DVD's . there is nothing wrong about it, but its not correct either. Not all horses respond the same way, and nothing ensures your horse will do the same thing as the horse on the DVD, nor the situation will be the same. Working out of plain theory doesnt work, and by practicing witouth propper instruction might turn out to become an improper way of riding. Paul weier - Riding out of plain theory does not work, it takes 10% theory, the rest is just practice... and not just any practice, Perfect practice. But anyways this is just my opinion.
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