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Ok. So Hunter is a very sweet 6 or 7 year old OTTB. He just retired the end of this summer so he is new to his routine. I just bought him and he is so sweet. He doesn't buck or kick. I have NOT ridden him. Just lunging and ground work but we are going to start riding him this weekend.
Lunging him he will go wonderfully his good way (maybe one or two attitude sways every week) but his bad (to the right) he doesn't like to budge. I can usually get him going for a little bit but when i try to make him go faster by clicking or flicking the line/whip at him he will pin his ears and stare me down or he might even jump into the center for a stride or two. He will also decide when he is done and will either switch directions or stop and face me and not move. I can't get him going again that way without taking a few minutes tyring to get him to go that way. He will even run INTO the whip to avoid going that way. And no its not physical. I think this is because he's a big baby and gets frustrated that i want him to go away and work and its harder going to his right because he doesn't have the proper muscling there. But im not sure. He will do this his good way sometimes (like i said once or twice a week now) when i flick the whip or line at him. sometimes even just flicking my hand at him will set him off.
His ground manners are pretty good so nothing really there but i just want opinions on how to handle this.
He has gotten MUCH better. He used to constantly do this to me. He would also just stop and stare at me. Now he at least moves.
HELP!
thanks
P.S-i will try to get a video of me lunging him for you to all see his reaction.
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| Remember he raced and was basically worked going to the left until you got him. While many trainers, owners etc will do some to the right they focus going to the left. So it is "new" to him. Many OTTB never learn to lunge to the right some do but with hitches along the way. Others it have no problems. It all depends on the horse. What you might want to do is get on him and ride him first at walk until any fidgettness is done then a relaxed moving at his own pace trot until figetness is done so on so forth until he basically getis that going to th right is not a bad idea. He may never learn to lunge well to the right and that i something you will just have to understand.
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I don't mean to be rude, but, isn't this the same post?
http://board.horsechannel.com/Topic305126-7-1.aspx
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| I agree with Misfit style except for one flaw- don't get on HOPING that he'll get better. Establish an understanding, get him going good in both directions before you ever get on a horse! Pat Parelli says that some people get on a horse and kick them to go, pull them to stop and yank them to the left and right but a horse is not a robot so you should really try and help him work through this issue. We cannot diagnose you over the Internet. Read and watch some stuff by natural horsemanship clinicians and get expert advice from OTTB retrainers. You should just google: OTTB Retraining Clinicians and see what comes up! Happy hacking, Savvy4Horses
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| Just a minor correction to savvy's post it wasnt misfit but me. And it is perfecly accepbable to get on a OTTB to get it to go in the oppsite nonracing direction. The horse is already 'broke' just isnt nonracing direction educated. You cant teach that from the ground. In the last 30 yrs Ive been around many ottb otsdbd and well they 'know' what you want just not a clue how or why.
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| Sorry horseless! Having a bad day! Um, one question though, what does accetabable mean and what does your last sentence mean? I don't mean to be rude but I can't descipher what I'm reading!
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So the other day he was being really bad so i let him go in the arena and started free lunging him...Which he does NO PROB. But the only flaw here is that i dont have a round pen to lunge in so only a HUGE arena. And i will be showing so i will not have access to an area to free lunge most of the time. But he is working to the right. And right now he is sore so i am going to wait till after he gets his feet done (he is way overdue).
Thanks guys.
And yes that was the same post...but i didn't get many reply's and i want to see what natural horsemanship people have to say about it. Its a different way of training.
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| I do agree with what Horseless722 said. Just get your horse used to moving to the right side, thats if, he is safe to ride ofcourse. But i sometimes don't find it helpful to lounge a horse on a large pen, when its hard to lounge him on one side. it is always allot more easier in a round pen, since the horse must stay in the circle regardless of what side your lounging him. I also saw the link that SwingAway111 left. and your horse seems hollow and tense at some point (In the videos you posted btw). Some tip i do recommend that regardless of what side your horse is moving, try always to lounge him at the trot. The trot is the most natural gate of the horse. (still im not completely happy on how the term natural might fit my sentence correctly) but it often is the most relaxing gate of the horse. its not too fast nor too slow. Your main goal when lounging your horse, asides from getting out all of his friskiness, is to help him relax witouth having some extra weight on his back, its to prepare your horse. Its hard for unbalanced horses to gallop in small circles, and sometimes when asking a horse to gallop while lounging, it might backfire and instead of having your horse relax, he might end up more tense. So for now try to keep your speed at a nice working trot. Side reins will also help your horse round his back, since he is hollow, and if used properly could also help your horse balance better on the side he is having trouble with, since maybe the problem might turn out to be lack of balance, making it uncomfortable for the horse to turn on that side. I do not recommend using side reins witouth the aid of an experience person, since side reins can be as hellpfull as they can be harmful. But yes, work slowly yet be persistent and patient. Seek as much Help from your trainer as needed, since its hard to give out some accurate advice based on just words. Hope my post helps :)
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