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I recently bought an AMAZING appendix QH. His only vice was that when hes cross tied, he'll stand until he feels resistance, freak out, brake the cross ties, and leave the barn. He stands for you perfectly fine, but he sometimes backs up a few steps, then when he feels resistance, he freaks out. He does the same thing if i tie him in his stall.
I really like this horse, and i would really like to fix this flaw, any methods of training that might help?
This is an equitation class. i wanna see yall EQUITATE
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He needs to learn how to give to the pressure. No special halter or tie ring will solve the problem - just mask it.
Giving to pressure is one of the most important things a horse can learn, and it takes many forms. A horse who feels pressure when tied and freaks is a horse who will, at some point, do the same dangerous behavior with a rider on or a person holding him on the ground. For instance, if you drop your reins or the lead rope, he steps on it, and then panic sets in and he injures his face or mouth. Or if he's in the trailer and hits the end of his trailer tie, he may scramble and go down.
For you, if you can, work with a trainer who can teach you how to teach your horse to give to pressure as a conditioned response (meaning it's not a conscious decision, he does it without thinking). Alternatively, I highly recommend the book "Communicating with Cues" by John Lyons for your situation. A good 60% of that book is teaching the horse how to give to pressure in various ways and other conditioned response methods to help your horse be safer and more confident. You can get it used on Amazon for cheap, but you may also ask friends or check out the local library.
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^^^Communicating With Cues came to mind also when I read the op's post. I second that it is a teriffic book
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But ask the animals, and they will teach you ~Job 12:7a
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you might wanna try this. The barnowner at my barn has an old gelding who used to do this and they would tie him up to a tree and put a chain on his nose and everytime he would pull back the chain would get him. I know it sounds kinda mean but a horse that pulls back and breaks stuff can be dangerous
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You should never tie with a chain on your horse.
Tying a horse to a solid object with a chain has a much higher chance of braking his nose than breaking a habit.
And again, this is a giving to pressure issue. Pain will not solve it. Training will. The old horse in Dallas' example may have stopped pulling back, but there's also a great chance that he fractured his nose in the process and no one noticed (the front of the horses' face is just skin over bone, there's very little tissue there, and so there is often very little swelling to indicate injury there).
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that is very true Woodrows Mommy(i hope i spelled your name right) it was a just a idea i threw out there cuz my barn owner did it. Personally, i would never do that to my horse.
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The Blocker tie ring does teach a horse to come forward off of pressure.
I've used them on all sorts of horses successfully.
The key to teaching a horse to stand tied is to NOT let them learn they can break free. No break away snaps, no leather crown piece.
The cool thing about the Blocker ring is that it allows a horse to figure out how to come forwards from the pressure without making them claustrophobic. They also learn they can never break free. Use a good long lunge line.
Doing some preliminary groundwork is a good idea... making sure the horse knows to yield to pressure no matter what. Hind end, front end, poll.
Your horse already has a disadvantage of figuring out he can break free. I would fix this with a rope halter and a high-tying hitching post. Tying high prevents the horse from hanging a leg, and it is harder for them to REALLY pull on. Let him stand there, let him fight it out. Supervise in case something bad happens, but more than likely he'll throw a tissy fit about 3 times, and then learn to stand.
Good luck.
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Might be his atlas/axis is out or needs some cranial sacral work-look at him head on-is one of his nostrils lower than the other? Eyes set the same on both sides of his head?
Can he do these yoga stretches easily?
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^the horse should still tie. If he can stand still in his stall and not freak, he can stand still in the aisle and not freak.
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