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Posted 10/25/2009 6:55:36 AM


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So I had saved up for months to aquire the PNH On Line kit. I scrounged Ebay dying for a deal when I finally purchased what I thought would be the 'secret' (as the PNH people had told me) to horsemanship. I would be a master. People would bow at my feet. Pat would say 'good job.'

I recieved the package and realized how very few items were contained in the stunning box. The DVD seemed realistic to do first so I sat down with popcorn thrilled to finally own a little piece of the Parelli logo. After ten minutes I'm bored, frusterated and furious! Did you know that those DVD's are just ads for other DVD's that you 'can't do Parelli without.' He doesn't tell you how to do the patterns or anything about horse physiollogy or behavior- just that the patterns are the Parelli's roadmap... A little dispointed I figured that all my questions and ideas about horse physiollogy would be answered in the book. I opened it. "Do you want more savvy? Buy the Online, At Liberty, Freestyle and Finesse patterns today!" Then it was just fancy photos and a horseinality thing which was too complicated and a little stupid- I could've invented it. These patterns were just made-up games- not a pathway to my horse. I gave up my dogs training lessons, my riding, my money I had saved for six months and my dignity to be a Parellite. And it sucks.

So saddened by what I had discovered I determined that I would not be a mindless Parellite who simply followed the footsteps of the money driven Pat. Thank goodness I hadn't bought that stupid carrot stick (crop with Parelli logo on it) or the savvy string (a piece of string with the Parelli logo on it). Instead I started listening to you people on here with experience, my instructor and experienced horse people again and guess what- they had plenty of information if I was willing to listen. My instructor already knew that horses were flight animals and that they weren't being 'bad' when they spooked or shied. She already knew the biomechanics of riding (the Parelli's Fluidy thing is cr-p!!!) and how to recieve the most out of your horse! She didn't need a billion dollar stick to establish her alpha or a trillion dollar DVD to know how to respond. She was a good horseperson.

I really wanted something more with the horses I rode though. I wanted to understand them, to read them, to respond to them accordingly. I didn't want to be a rider. I wanted to be a horseperson. Finally prepared to take a chance on another clinician I did much more studying- did not judge anything by a pretty cover or photo- and decided on TTouch.

Linda-Tellington Jones does not think her method is gospel and reconizes plenty of other methods- and recommends them. I've already found 'centered riding' and another method through her website! Did the fat old Parelli's do that? No way! (Well not unless they were getting something out of it.)

So the moral of this story is if you're a novice out there like me who was awed by some circus tricks, pretty photos and a cool website make sure you know what you're getting into. Have a list of questions like:
1. Do they train competition horses?
2. Are they genuinely good riders/horsepeople?

3. Are they in it for the money or do they really have something to offer you?

4. Do they reconize other methods in case theirs doesn't work out?

5. Do they have lists of products you NEED to have or can you use substitutes.

Now I'm not trying (really) to bash PNH here. If it works for your horse good for you! But try to be open to new ideas. You miss a lot when you simply pick one method as gospel. I did. But I won't anymore.

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Posted 10/25/2009 8:04:31 AM


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Another thing I would like to add is many people think that PP is better than other NH people because he has a 'program.' I have learned that clinicians who have several DVD's on different sources are better because you can individualize your program to fit your horses needs.

There was a post on here called 'Looking With Both Eyes' which is a perfect example of what happens when someone who doesn't understand horses follows a 'set program' and when there horse doesn't do A to get B then they don't know how to fix it! (I don't mean this offensively the person who wrote that post!)

So if I hit a rough spot with TTouch than I may go to John Lyons, Chris Irwin or even my non-NH instructor because TTouch is not a set program!

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Posted 10/25/2009 12:20:07 PM


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I love TTouch. The last time I went to equine affare two years ago I saw her and got her book and she signed it. The book: http://www.ttouch.com/shop/index.php?productID=190 has all the TTouchs and training excersizes and what to do for a certan problem. I have used it on Banico every once in a while but the TToches really loosen him up. I havent really tried any of the training excersizes but they look good.

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Posted 10/25/2009 2:24:17 PM


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Yeah, for Christmas I'm getting that book, Getting In TTouch With Your Horse, and getting in Ttouch with your dog. (For my puppy: www.thebaileydailey.webs.com)

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Posted 10/25/2009 5:21:57 PM


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First of all, I really like how you wrote cr-p. It's classy. Much better than the whole word, or worse, a worse word.
Second of all, it sounds lke you have a good plan, but I would try a few of the T-touch exercises on Boye before getting a $30 book. Again, he could love the exercises, or hate them. Do you have any friends who might have the T-touch book? If so, you might want to borrow it from them, just to make sure your horse likes and responds to the training.
I know you've been hearing this alot, but I'm going to say it again. It doesn't matter how good the trainer is, a horse can love or hate the program. Alot of horse training is just trial-and-error. Good luck!

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Posted 10/26/2009 11:18:24 AM


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Oh don't worry! I'm not so stupid to make the same mistake twice! I've already tried like 3 of the TTouchs and Boye L-O-V-E-S them! I've never ever had him lean into me and just appreciate my time so much! I also think he'll really respond to the liberty neck ring because he was trained in Germany by top dressage people so he is super sensitive! And even if he doesn't respond, all the better for experience for other horses!
And thanks Gracie53 for visiting my website! It doesn't get much traffic...

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Posted 10/26/2009 7:30:55 PM


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Good luck on this adventure.  Be sure to continue to look into other ways as well.  It helps to be well-rounded or at least have an idea about all sorts of different types of training so you can use what works for the horse you have at any particular time.

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Posted 11/19/2009 9:36:25 PM


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I watched some of Parelli and couldn't stand him. I don't know why everyone is so crazy about him, but I really couldn't stand it. So anyway, I did more research and found Clinton Anderson's Downunder Horsemanship. I LOVE him. I've been doing his techniques and I have had the most wonderful results. I recommend him to everyone for all horses. However, before you buy his stuff, watch his TV Show (Downunder Horsemanship) on RFDTV on Tuesday nights from 10 to 11 pm (EST) or go to his website: http://www.downunderhorsemanship.com/.

Watch him for yourself and see if he is what you are looking for. I have been following his program and I have a responsive, loving, respectful, and trustworthy horse and a relationship with him that I never even dreamed of. Yes, some of his stuff is expensive, but I can tell you, he has the real deal. Everything is super high quality and his customer service is excellent.

Try him out!! 

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Posted 11/22/2009 8:51:38 AM


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Okay so, heres the thing ive noticed.  People who practice parelli, cant ride.  So instead of becoming experts in the saddle, they become "Ground Experts".  They go and spend hundreds of dollars on crap so they can 'play' with their horse, and avoid riding at all costs.  Ive taken so many parelli lessons, clinics, and read all the books, that this is my honnest opinion, being experianced with parelli. I understand why people dont smack their horses, but its come to the point where people are buying the brand. At my tack shop, you can buy all the NHMS stuff for under $100, without the name, or you can spend 500+ for the exact same thing, with the word Parelli written on it.  Now your all gonna attack me.. so im gonna hide..

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now im not saying, you as a person cant ride, but this is just what ive noticed.. IMO.. people need to stop paying for a way to get closer to their horses.  Spend time with him,  sit with him, go for walks,  bring him snacks every so often.   Alot of people above were talking about T touch.. Iv eused it, and ive found that it really works, if you horse doesnt mind being touched.

heres a website explaining it; http://www.ttouch.com/whyTTEAM.shtml

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