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Posted 12/3/2009 2:49:17 PM


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I've never seen parelli work with horses or people, and wouldn't recognize him if he was my cashier at walmart!  However, I've heard many more bad things than good about him, with the exception that the 7 games were a stroke of genius. Any instructor who has that little people skills, and the right amount of arrogance to go with it should not be patronized.  (that is, we shouldn't buy his stuff )

However, he's only human, and he probably doesn't know Jesus, so we really can't expect him not to be only in it for the money.

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Posted 12/7/2009 9:57:58 AM
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I agree that they will soon be marketing helmets with their logos all over it--much like their line of saddles and other junk they sell.

Also--I still resent that he used to bash/badmouth Dressage and then changed his tune (cha-ching) when he hooked up with his dressage-queen wife.



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Posted 12/10/2009 9:37:13 AM


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[quote]GoldenMaia (12/7/2009)
I agree that they will soon be marketing helmets with their logos all over it--much like their line of saddles and other junk they sell.

Also--I still resent that he used to bash/badmouth Dressage and then changed his tune (cha-ching) when he hooked up with his dressage-queen wife.

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Actually, she still bangs it, though not as loudly as she did a few years ago. Linda actually went though a stint where she would tel her "come to Parelli" story at demos - saying that she'd bought Remmer and that while they'd had some limited success in the dressage ring, he was still generally unmanageable and dangerous and that she went to a Pat because he was her and her horse's last hope. And then the "light of Parelli" opened her eyes and she saw everything she was doing wrong and realized that Dressage was an inherently abusive sport and Parelli was the only way to teach her horse to be safe and sane. She then went into describing all the evils of dressage.

Well, because just about everyone has some sort of camera or camcorder that does digital video, that speech started making rounds on the net, and a lot of people (understandably) took offense and let the Parelli's know about it. Some people even looked up Linda and Remmer's show records, and it turned out that they never placed, let alone won, at any of the dressage shows that Linda claimed to have done well at (through her coercive training of him and harsh riding - she would talk down dressage but then backhandedly boast about her wins). It turned out that Linda had claimed to have been riding other people's horses at higher levels, but again, there were no records to prove it - and since she was claiming to have been attending recognized shows, there were detailed records on the internet. When she got called out on it, she first did a bunch of back pedaling, but then basically let it drop, because she couldn't defend it and toned down what she had to say about dressage. That is, until Walter Zettl showed some interest in the Parelli program, and they tried to use him and his base of respect/support to appeal to a whole new group of people.

I will say that while I do dressage, and love it, and the core principles that go along with it, I do have some issues with the way some of the upper-level competitive riders train/compete their horses, and that's regrettable because of the amateurs who will undoubtedly follow their poor examples to try and win. And it's a shame that there are judges out there who claim to judge according to the training principles set out by classical dressage, but then they score the "celebrity" riders higher/more leniently or in the of international level competition, score the riders from their own country higher. The FEI, and to a lesser extent, the USDF also have some policy issues to iron out.

So I do see where there are arguments to be made against dressage, as in any sport, so please don't go after me for just being defensive of my sport, I can look at things objectively. But I do believe that my point about Linda Parelli is valid - she was the one doing most of the bashing and until fairly recently.

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Posted 12/13/2009 7:29:58 AM


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I just hope everyone goes and gets (and most importantly WEARS) a good quality helmet, even if it costs $20 more to have a 'P' printed on the side.

Of course, this also means that the 'top trainers' need to be seen wearing them in videos...
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Posted 12/15/2009 1:21:33 PM
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I've broken 3 helmets. Last one sent me to the emergency room. Long story short I came out with retrograde amnesia, a severe concussion, and a sprained knee. I would be either dead or in a coma right now if I was helmet-les. After going through that anyone who encourages people to NOT wear helmets is a total idiot. If someone had listened to Parelli's "People who wear helmets shouldn't be riding that horse" & gotten injured I'd blame it totally on Parelli. Beyond that, horses can slip and fall. Does Parelli protect people from that? I think not.


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I have been riding for 15 years and just recently started wearing a helmet.  I had tried helmets in the past but they were uncomfortable and didn't fit.  I didn't have any serious precipitating accident but there were two incidents that made me stop and think.  One time my mare slipped on a pile of poop at a sitting trot and fell on her side.  I did not hit my head and I was in the grass but suppose I had been on a harder surface?  The second time, I was just walking through the woods and I was concentrating on the weave I had to make to get around a tree and didn't see the big @$$ branch right at head level.  Tessa did exactly what I asked her and the dang branch hit me right in my forhead and knocked my ball cap off.  Left a lump and a nice red spot too.  Had I had a helmet on, the branch would have scraped the helmet instead.  It was more embarressing than anything.  I now have the Troxel Sierra (in pink and brown ) and it is SOOO comfortable.   
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Posted 1/25/2010 7:14:45 AM
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now i dont usually wear a helmet when i ride but sometimes i will if i am training a horse.  that was his opinion on helmets and personally i dont like them either for that fact that i got hurt on a horse when i was 8 and frankly it did more bad than good....but if you dont have a lot of experience around horses or they are young nd starting to get broke you should consider one but if you dont its know ones fault but yours...given i dont to alot of parelli techniques but i am starting to do more now i would be more worried about the carrot stick thats used than a helmet i had a horse flip over on me from seeing it about 20 feet away and with a helmet my neck woulda broke

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I've been riding horses for close to 50 years and only recently started wearing a helmut last year.....I had been riding 2 y/o horses. I was riding one down a field road. I had noticed the round baler working in the field. I was sure the horse was aware of it too...until the horse reared and spun around dumping me on the hard ground..The horse had NEVER reared before and never did after that..but the result was a minor concussion. I bought a helmut the next day and wear it every time I ride, whether on the trails or training at home.

Julie Goodnight is a trainer that I respect and she always wears a helmut. Of course, she has the really nice ones, both English and Western styles.

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