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The reason my horse has gone lame is because she has a conformation fault called a negative palmer. The vet didn't tell me what it is though. He only said that he has the worst kind! I searched the internet but couldn't find anything about them. So does anyone know what they are???
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I think you misunderstood what he was saying. "Palmar" (not palmer, with an e) and palmar refers to an anatomy term meaning "as viewed from above" and synonymous with the more commonly used term "dorsal".
P3 refers to the coffin bone and it's joint.
Basically, what your vet told you was that your horse has a problem with her coffin bone having having rotated downward. That's not a conformation fault - it's what is generally known as "founder" (not to be confused with laminitis - they're two different problems, though laminitis frequently precedes founder). This is just an unusual form of it.
Given that your horse is an OTTB, it's very possible that this downward rotation of the coffin bone was a result of race trauma. Young horses whose bones are not fully formed being ridden, trained, and raced are subjected to a huge range of stresses their bodies are not prepared to handle. Some horses have catastrophic breakdowns on the track or in training and are put down, but the vast majority of retired race horses have smaller, less obvious injuries that frequently go unnoticed and/or undiagnosed only to cause problems later in the horse's life. My guess is that your horse injured her coffin bone during her race career - or possibly sometime afterward, and that injury wasn't noticed or properly treated, which resulted in the rotation of the coffin bone. Now that she's older and the cycle of inflammation has caused arthritis in that joint, which is why she came up lame.
What I don't understand is why in the world your vet didn't explain all that in the first place, and instead gave you the highly technical form of his diagnosis rather than explaining it.
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Woodrow, I'm slightly confused as to your explaination. A negative palmar angle/ negative P3 palmar is when the back on the P3 is lower than the tip. A HIGH palmar angle is when the tip is rotated downward, as seen in founder cases. The name she was given is acceptable, but they are most commonly known as a negative palmar angle or NPA. Horses with a negative palmar angle usually display a convex shaped hoof wall (rounded out) from the apex/ tip of the P3 pressing against the laminae in the front of the hoof. Radiographs of a horse with a NPA are very interesting to behold.
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Thank you Hibiscus, you are absolutely correct. :) I was obviously getting things backward in my explanation - I had looked up the answer in one of my vet books and must have misinterpreted the information about the direction of the rotation. I also didn't know that both spellings (with the 'a' and the 'e') were both correct, as again, I was going off what was in my book.
Thanks for the clarification. :)
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Her spelling was incorrect, but the name itself is correct. Not commonly used but still correct. I prefer Negative Palmar Angle, myself. :)
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Oh, I see what you were saying. :)
In any case, you're a wealth of knowledge - thanks for the correction.
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Ha, thanks!
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Thanks guys! This really cleared things up! Yeah, I have a different vet now Sorry, for the spelling. I wasn't sure. It sucks because she such a unique horse, and now she's sufering I really wish there was more I could do, but there's nothing. Not even surgery could fix this. My new vet says that it's the worst case of it she's ever seen! Today was the first day I've ridden English with here in 2 years, and she wanted to go! But I'm not allowed to let her. Plus, it was really windy, and she's spooky, but today it was worse. When she spooks, she jumps a few feet: not good at all for her injury, disability, whatever it is. Well, wish her luck!
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To be loved by a horse, or by any animal, should fill us with awe-
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